Trump impeachment trial: defense claims case ‘preposterously wrong on the facts’ – live

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6.33pm GMT

Van der Veen is quoting former Associate Justice James Wilson, who died in 1798, then loops in some of the other ‘founding fathers’. He is still on the subject of freedom of speech.

“If the house managers had their way they would ignore all of the constitution,” Van der Veen said. He then added something about the impeachment being “anti-American”, and moved on to quoting case law from the 1960s.

This argument is dumb. Conduct can be generally “constitutional” while also being disruptive to the *constitutional order.*

Trump incited the violent disruption of the *constitutional process* by which our elections conclude.

It doesn’t matter if the speech itself is protected.

Trump lawyer Michael T. van der Veen, speaking right now, once sued Trump, citing “an environment subject to repeated claims by President Donald J. Trump that voting by mail is ripe with fraud, despite having no evidence in support of these claims” https://t.co/2m9Nmb4TCn

6.26pm GMT

Elizabeth Warren, the Democratic senator from Massachusetts, is among those using the word “fight” in this video that Trump’s legal team keeps rolling out. Here’s some context:

Given how much Warren footage we just watched, it feels worthwhile to point out: I covered Warren’s campaign for over a year. Every day was about “why she’s in this fight.” For policy. It’s laughable to think anyone ever thought she was urging people towards physical violence.

Continue reading… Source: The Guardian

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